Here’s what an unmedicated relapse looks like, 2 minute clip.
That’s what it looks like for that person. I didn’t watch the video. I know my own experience and I know where I am now.
If it makes you more comfortable to say that I don’t have schizophrenia, then that’s what you need to do.
For me it’s a mute point. I came on this forum and found people who understood what existing in an alternate reality felt like. Secrets I have kept for years and years could be openly discussed here.
I didn’t self-diagnose. I thought I had Autism. When I was diagnosed with sz I was shocked and thought it was too extreme. And then I started reading about it and so many things fit. And then I came on this forum and met people like me for the first time in my life.
I used to get upset when people on here told me that if I’m functioning without meds I must not have sz, because they were basically rejecting me from the only community of humans that I relate to. But I educated myself and moved on from having to feel upset.
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I think there’s a difference between someone who says you don’t have schizophrenia due to your being less impaired , and someone like me who would say you are more fortunate than many/most with the diagnosis . Some of us, by the way environmental and genetic factors combine, are dealt a better hand than others. I think as well as accepting schizophrenia is a spectrum disorder, we should acknowledge that because of that some are less fortunate/need more help and support than others.
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Yes. And I think dismissing, ostracizing and unqualified diagnosing by some to others on this forum should be against the rules just like other things are.
Haven’t we all all suffered enough, some more some less (although that is completely relative and unmeasurable), and haven’t we all lost enough to sz without tearing at each other?
Human nature is just ugly no matter which humans your dealing with, but I wish for myself and everyone that this forum was a safer place.
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I think degree of suffering as described by the individual is more subjective whereas there can be more objective criteria for degree of impairment . A person could be quite impaired and hardly feel they are suffering at all.A person could be mildly impaired and yet the suffering they’re experiencing to them could be worse than what the quite impaired person is feeling.
the title should be “70% do not reach complete recovery without meds”
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Yes, I agree. Not to mention the fact that this article never states how it defines “recovery” or “minor psychotic symptoms.” Is it being determined by the patients? Because what I describe as having “minor” symptoms is a day where my symptoms are more organized in the sense that my mind isn’t chaotic, even though the symptoms that I have left over would likely still result in doctors putting me on AP’s.
And who determines whether or not someone is having psychosis? Because if someone is living in a non-bizarre delusion that could be taking place, it might not look like psychosis. Like someone who maybe believes that his upstairs neighbor stomps around the house in the middle of the night because they’re jealous of his garage parking spot. Is it a delusion? Possibly, but at the same time, there really are people who are that petty.
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It should actually be "Nearly 82% do not reach complete recovery without meds” if we’re going down that road.
I think oneday im going to go off meds !!
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I have heard one sz psychotic episode doesn’t make it schizophrenia
I think life with no residual symptoms for the 10 years after would qualify an appropriate time to ask a doc about coming off meds
that would be no voices at all
no thoughts of powers or existential worries at all,
nothing paranoid, nothing catatonic, no situation you can’t cope with ie a difficult period of studying or working full time for about 5 years with possible coping strategies as a precaution and no years or months lived stress free
move house. experience bereavement. be responsible for something like 3 Siberian Husky puppies or a group of teenagers for many months
foster if you want to
do you understand?
sorry - i’m not a doctor
i know my levels of functioning
i couldn’t do these things.
i have been relatively stable for 13 years
plenty voices,
a day or so of unusual thoughts sometimes
medicated for life after 5 years average in acute psychosis prior (not all in one go)
not a chance i want to try off meds
married
living independently
coping with more stress but mum is right i could overestimate myself at the minute
gotta unwillingly back down
accept help
ask for help
this is one person
sorry
I’m not a doctor
I dont think this be possible for me. I just had too many suicide attempts because of some delusions and being depressed. Even recently i tried it didnt work. Maybe just less AP dossage if i continue to be/feel well, im not even sure its just my wish for now. It sounds tempting for me to be off meds.
When people with ASD’s special interests and social challenges start destroying the grey matter in their brains, you let me know. Perhaps then I will be more willing to compare the two. Just because you’re not incapacitated doesn’t mean that schizophrenic psychosis isn’t eating away at your brain. My pdoc says that meds help slow that process, even if they’re not working perfectly.
Schizophrenia isn’t a personality trait. No one’s trying to be a gatekeeper, and no one’s trying to reject you just for the sake of rejecting you, but @jukebox is right. Schizophrenics need their meds. All schizophrenics need their meds, if for no reason but to slow the cognitive decline that often accompanies schizophrenia.
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What about if they only have negative symptoms??
Whats the point of meds then?
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Obviously psychosis/schizophrenia is the main issue here, but we shouldn’t downplay other disabilities.
People with most cancers don’t destroy the grey matter in their brains, but we don’t dismiss cancer because of that.
Whatever you may choose to think ASD can be quite/very disabling for some people.
Yes but I still have Negative syptoms frequently not positive, but I can’t work in the environment I used too, with the public.This is why I choose to work for myself.You may disagree with my diagnosies of SZ but it is true iam afraid,Pysch recently told me not to come of my meds.
Mmmmm closer to 81.6777 but round number is good too 
Tomatoes my friend organic tomatoes
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I was going for the closest round number. In that sense I was right.
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lol man !! 
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