I took an 100 hours of couse on CBT and Life coaching still i cant put my head around SZ but manageable, it all How I Talk to Self is what i got to know from these courses. What i think is what reflects around me.
What are you thinking lately ? And what made you do the things you are presently doing ?
These self help books and courses can leave you more confused in the end. Not everyone is good at helping themselves by reading books or courses.
After reading books on psychology I have come to resent the field. Not a single thing has helped me. It is better to get help from psychologist. One is less likely to misconstrue things this way. And figure out if it is for you or not.
But psychologist charge is so damn high last one i paid was 2000 for one visit(one hour)
And 50 hours course is just 439.
Obviosuly consultations with psychologist are more expensive. You have to consult them more frequently than you would psychiatrist.
However DIY therapy ends up taking disproportionately more time and thereās no guarantee you will find help you were looking for.
It is like growing your own vegetables vs buying from market each week. Looks simple on surface. But is not so.
Therapy is more active. And psychologist will enforce accountability in a way. A CBT course, you are mostly consuming it like watching tv series or something.
$2000 for one Psychologist appointment? What? I doubt all Psychologists charge that high.
Its in rupees that comes up to $24.35
I might have spent around ā¹2000/- if not more on two workbooks. After a year of going through those I was real frustrated. Couldnāt make any sense of it. I was more stressed out after going through those. It was overwhelming.
During low of depressive episode I tore those apart. Threw in garbage.
There are people on forum for whom it worked for. Not me. I feel I would have been better off not knowing about it.
@anon89422488 Would like get some feed back as to how to therapy is structured. Do we have to note down our thoughts, feelings and emotions and correct it and find alternative to the negative reaction and behavior?
What they say about reading books and also regarding sleeping habits. Can we benefit from them in terms of improving the intelligence and cognitive skills? Is there any games that can help improve cognition or need to follow their advise?
I studied self in a way that what would i do in a situation, and got to know i dont listen to others than my own effort of getting it done right by self. So thought to explore this option of self learning, also main thing to note here is even this self learning does not work arround sz.
If i have only 5 % ability to do a task, focus on this 5, rest is history. By the way i am just speaking of self, i too burned down my dairy , it was no good i felt i exposed self though books, now i am here exposing self here online.
Yes, psychologist is very use full, but my days are over, they tried their best. If i dont understand them they will never able to understand me.
You know my last visit to psychologist told me to go kill your self. That too indirectly.
I will tell you what he said, he shared a story,
There where, 5 students,
First student passed the exams with good rank , and got a well paid job.
Second, just completed the exam and took over his fatherās business.
Third, failed and went in search of a job which he can afford.
Fourth, failed and retook his exam and cleared.
Fifth, failed and hanged him self.
The way he spoke of fifth, he did not even say it properly , he just looked up and made me look up, to the hook that he had for the ceiling fan, i gave a though for a long time,
Yes i can consider the first four and be positive, but he said it a way that i was broken, he just gave up on me, after all the things i did what he told.
I think the thing made him angry was i started to smoke and started to plan for my higer studies. Because i had failed in masters.
Because of my psychologist effort i got a job and excelled,
I think i went wrong when i took the first puff after 4 years.
My the idea of higer studies was in me before smoking,
I started to smoke because i asked for approval at home and my psychologist,
At home they said no and psychologist narrated this story.
Sorry @Melomaniac i dont know none of the answers to your question.
But all i could say it depends on you, what are you gonna do when truck loads of issues crumble down on you. No one will come to help you but i need to ask for help.
Only a crying baby will get milk.
I have lost it, if someone tries to correct you in a planned way, i feel stupid.
@anon89422488 Thatās hard one. Mental health professionals they get emotionally invested in patients. And more in ones that seem to do well after treatment.
@Melomaniac There is cognitive remediation therapy for people with schizophrenia who have cognitive deficits. It might improve cognition not intelligence. @Ninjastar had got some non pharma intervention for sleep problems. There is @shutterbug and someone else from 
canāt remember his name have experience with cognitive therapy.
Im a veteran and am receiving both psychological and psychiatry services from the VA, doesnāt cost me a penny. The services are excellent.
Whatās your VA Disability Rating? Iāve been at 100% for years.
I see a psychiatrist. Iāve done therapy before but I donāt like it.
My psychiatrist also did psychotherapy
Im at 0% I collect ssdi
You should apply for VA Disability Income. I get VACP and SSDI. Schizophrenia should award you 100% Rating, Permanent and Total.
I donāt believe in psychology for me either.
I once had my mother as such and her husband pay for a psychologist privately after police were contacted for abuse on me.
All three of them ganged up on me.
They humiliated and mocked my feelings and trauma and laughed at my suffering.
It was absolutely horrible.
They pretty much owned the psychologist who they paid and had her around their little finger.
He is a diagnosed psychopath but i kindof like him somehow even though he was abusive and always said Iām not a member of their family and almost killed me with pillow anc strangulation.
I felt my mother as such who studied psychology at university always used it in an evil way somehow.
I have never been helped by psychologists only damaged by them.
Itās a hell no from me to see one again.
My Gp is hopefully enough.
That must be tough. Here it is more money minded people and they do good service for good money else it sub par. So better to do therapy on our own.
