,… I tell it to f u c k off.
It helps.
What do you do about negative intrusive thoughts?
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I don’t know. I’m trying to figure that out myself. I think the work has to be done around the thought to try to reframe and make sense of it so that when it intrudes it can be dismissed, but I’m by no means an expert as I do a lot of self=therapy. It is important to know that (for me) delusional thoughts will arise, but that a logical framework of reality will create a place in which they cannot take root. A thought without belief is powerless.
Yes I agree work has to be done around the thought. But some intrusive thoughts of mind are unlikely scenarios that are just plain unhelpful to think about.
It really helps to tell them to f u c k off.
It takes some of the power out of it.
Iike taking a stand against useless stuff
I guess, but fighting my mind gets kind of exhausting. I guess taking a mental stand for your beliefs is a better way of looking at it. I think if your beliefs are in the right place, there is a lot less effort that has to be expended because your perception shifts to reinforce that viewpoint and mold reality around it, as opposed to constantly battling with your mind and trying to push thoughts out. It’s like if I build a house and it constantly topples over, maybe I need to work on the foundation of the house in order to secure it. In the same way, the foundation of your mind is your belief structure. What you believe in determines what you see in the world, which determines the things that will trigger you.
Still, it helps to tell thoughts to f u c k off sometimes. I have to do it sometimes for sure.
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That could be the case, fortunately I don’t get the intrusives non stop, constant.
Like u said, I’m working on the actual reason behind those thoughts and then hopefully the thoughts will come up much less frequently and or will be less disturbing and distressing
Sorry you have disturbing thoughts. Generally the worst I have is that I think people are saying things directed at me when they aren’t. It’s just a perceptual thing. I noticed it tonight in the comedy club. It kind of ruins human interaction in some ways, which sucks because a whole lot of me yearns for human connection. I’m making progress though, so I guess that’s what counts. I just have to attach myself to a grounded view of reality (a belief) and live in that, but that can be easier said than done. I don’t know if all the spiritual stuff I do helps or hurts. One of the tenets of the guy I follow is that there is no such thing as a true belief. That all beliefs are the mind trying to make sense of reality and that reality requires no belief to exist. This is nice, but not particularly good for someone with sz because they need a belief in reality of some kind or else they get lost. For someone with false beliefs this belief in no beliefs helps clarify things and remove a lot of the psychotic perceptions in place, but some belief is required to rebuild a conceptual framework of reality. Schizophrenia shows, if anything, just how complex consciousness really is.
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Hopefully things continue to get better for you.
Yes, sz is concrete proof of just how much our mind is capable of.
It used to fascinate me, now there’s a slight fear too, after having experienced psychosis and been on these powerful medications that alter our brain chemistry
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I can really relate to this. It used to happen to me so much. Something like that. And when it didn’t happen, I would be anxious wondering if it was gonna happen! Just is a mood killer. But it’s good to see you are working on a belief framework and that may well help.
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I would like it to get better, but if it doesn’t, that’s okay too. I’m happy with who I am and I accept where I am. I’m making an effort to make things better for myself (it’s kind of a natural human inclination), but I’m not placing the value of myself into the result of that effort. If I mess up, I’m still loveable. That doesn’t change.
And yeah, meds are wild. I remember being on haldol and it felt like the life force was being taken out of me. I felt so drained all the time. It scared a lot of people around me. Consciousness should scare you to some extent. Your mind is capable of a great deal, either constructively or destructively. But if your true nature is good and your beliefs come from a loving place, you have nothing to be afraid of if you take the time to look within and truly examine yourself.
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Try to ignore the thought and if it gets too aggressive, i take a benzo and go to bed.
My negative intrusive thoughts come from a little, aggressive old man wearing a panamahat. Two weeks ago his thoughts entered my mind, but he was not wearing the panamat? For the first time in 25 years. I asked him why? Of course i got a rude answer that i should leave him alone and get the ■■■■ out of here 
I always divert and ignore any intrusive thoughts I get…it takes practice…good for you for figuring out how to help yourself.
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