the above is an early draft - would like to hear any points for or against please?
editors welcome! arguments welcome
the above is an early draft - would like to hear any points for or against please?
editors welcome! arguments welcome
I would take this part out. Itâs too personal, can be seen as biased.
The rest is pretty cool, enjoyed reading it.
Thanks!
I think you just missed the really personal stuff i deleted as soon as i put it up!
Lol yeah, read it after the edit
If youâve âhad very limited exposure to pornâ, as you sayâŚthen why are you writing an opinion/article about it?
I havenât been raped either, but i have an opinion
I havenât been locked up with a lethal injection being my only way out of the room
etc ad nauseum
As well as not having mentioned the methods and materials i have had exposure to
I just figure if you wanna learn about say, AfricaâŚwellâŚyou go to Africa!
Iâm undecided on that. I think career pornography certainly is. Anime porn is generally child focused - donât have to search that to imagine it either.
Saying that we should make porn thatâs women friendly is like saying we should make guns that are human flesh friendly: a nice idea thatâs not realistic. Porn objectifies women. Thatâs the point of it: thrills without the messy humanity. If anything, the flood of amateur porn is going to make conditions worse for the people involved because there will only be money in the harder core stuff.
Do you think all pornography is abuse?
I just subscribe to the old sawâŚâwrite what you knowââŚ
So if youâve had very little exposure to pornography, then an opinion piece/article written by you wonât carry much weight or credibility to the reader.
my 2 cents
I do get you I do
I could go into my whole abuse story - I could - but ja,
pointless
Lots of women like watching porn tooâŚ
Itâs a complicated issue fer sure.
it is
I donât see it as being a female driven industry
and primarily - i donât know where we go from here
I wonder if âmy limited exposure to pornography has been under abusive conditions.â might carry more weight
thanks!
If you want to delve into the real subjugation of women, write an article on the NiqabâŚ
But most feminists are silent on that one Iâve noticed.
Itâs difficult and I really donât have first hand knowledge
But Feminism is nothing if it is not global.
There is a lot of talk about it, the mixed feelings are all over the place. Of course most feminists are against it I think.
Iâve learned enough about Africa that Iâm never going there. Continent-wide parade of dysfunction.
Pixel.
Previously I wrote you something about riskiness of totalistic/universalistic view, but I guess at the end thatâs your articleâŚ
What is the problem, for me, is your inicial premise that âporn objectifies womenâ. OK. Then, letâs accuse the whole fashion Industry, and almost 99% percent of entertainment jobs,including commercials and filming, , BDSM - and yes there are feminist submissives, oh and male magazines (take a look to a Maxim for instance), not to mention Playboy and so on and so onâŚ
If you are fighting the industry of sexual desire, then I hope you are aware that its lost from the start: because you are simply denying the fact that women are not only participants but consuments of that industry as well.
Secondly, you are in danger of taking the voices of and for all women which is criticised a long ago by postcolonial feminism. Saying that porn always objectifies women is like stating that religion does the same. OK, but what we gonna do with the Islamic feminism and women who chose their way of living whatever we âthe emancipated westernsâ think about that?
But if you think to fight the legal or illegal side of pornâŚthatâs a whole other thing I suppose.