If you accept that there is such a thing like ”Self Control” i just lost it.
I had a relapse and been drinking for no reason. Tomorrow i accept my lack of control, and start taking antabuse/disulfiram that prevents me drinking. ’
I have to go back to my job to have someone taking control over me !
Do you believe in Self Control or are we just bits and pieces floating around with no free will?
I believe in self control but not when it comes to alcohol. I’m an alcoholic and had to go to AA to get help. I was lucky and they helped me quit.
Yes, it’s like some alien thing / impulse taking control of you
That’s exactly right. That’s the way it was for me too.
I had self control issues from Abilify, addiction to weed, drinking, shopping, gambling, sex and eating.
Addiction to weed caused psychosis while on meds.
Yes, i know @Aziz and that’s one of the reasons i’m considering switching from abilify to a low dose of zyprexa… even i dont think changing drugs solve the problem in my case, i just have to fill the emptiness with something else.
I believe in free will. That’s what makes self control difficult because options are always open to you. It takes practice and discipline to make good choices.
Well written @LilyoftheValley, i’m not so sure of free will myself… and it’s not an apologize for indulging in alcohol and drugs.’’
I think you to a large degree are governed by external forces, other people, society, the media… but still, youre right - there are choices to made.’’
Just confused right now.
A bad self-control for me is due the Sz itself more than my meds. My experience is that my brains are not in my own use in the same way as in the pre-sz times. I can feel a reflective force that pushes my psyching in backwards and when that happens, I really can’t do much about it then. Free will is probably a lot bigger for the healthy people, but yeah - I can co sign, that Sz’s can’t be in the charge the same way they used to. It’s like some outside force makes it hard to not drink beer or smoke cigs. Some meds just boost the addictions even bigger though. Anyway, free will is interesting theme to discuss - and I used to do it a lot over another forum. Basically taken, Free Will seems to be there, but the real mystery is that what force brings it so down sometimes?
Interesting, you might be right about free will is lessened by a Sz diagnose - or you just have to fight harder to make the right decisions.
People without Sz might take the right choices in a natural flow, perhaps because they are so tight woven together with the society, the natural way of doing things?
When you suffer from Sz you are often estranged/alienated from the natural way of being in a society, community.
Any way, today i succeed in skipping alcohol without antabus, so at least i could make that wise choice without any help.
It’s like we Sz’s have a pretty radical challenge on all the time, to be able to manage our own consciousness and manage our system. I think the best advice would be that don’t self-punish yourself if you are a bit offline when you drink or smoke etc.
Of course there is no free will, but then again self control its not its opposite. Self control is a function of how the I is defined. You might be able to self control, but you can’t control what is it that you self control.
Kind of true that one can’t order what is coming to your system as a next thing to be self-controled, but that couldn’t be differently anyway as we are all sharing the same “game”. Free will is on the background and needs a feed. The feed can be managed a bit. But the results can be anything really.
I dont believe that much in free will either, but the thing that annoys me, is that not believing in free will, and making independent choices, could be used like an excuse for a morally wrong behavior…
My actions are not a part of myself, so i can do whatever i want… that doesn’t sound like a proper explanation for wrong doings.
Atm I don’t believe in free will. I think our thoughts and actions are due to genetics and the environment.
Who knows I could be wrong but that’s how I feel atm.
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