RTE Documentary about abuse in Irish Psychiatric Institutions

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Seriously? I didn’t know that. I’m actually from Ireland.

Some people with celiac disease can be misdiagnosed as schizophrenia. I think.

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I got diagnosed after going vegan for a long time.

Like I said some people with celiac disease have been misdiagnosed. Schizophrenia itself isn’t a gluten problem. That’s misinformation.


I Hate people who treat misunderstood folks as senseless animals who have the potential for good :angry:

The first diagnoses of something similar to schizophrenia are from the 19th century. Only a subset of schizophrenic patients showed improvements on a gluten-free diet.

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I’m Irish (in Dublin) and have Sz and have been in psych hospital three times. I was a private patient so they were nice to me, but they tended to be a bit meaner to the public patients.

:confused: Ireland has a long history - I am talking thousands of years - of madness. No one anywhere in the world was diagnosed with schizophrenia prior to the late 19th century, because the concept hadn’t been medically named.

This is from an 8th century Irish poem, more than 1000 years prior to the 19th century famines:

he looked up, whereupon turbulence, and darkness, and fury, and giddiness, and frenzy, and flight, unsteadiness, restlessness, and unquiet filled him, likewise disgust with every place in which he uséd to be and desire for every place which he had not reached. His fingers were palsied, his feet trembled, his heart beat quick, his senses were overcome, his sight was distorted, his weapons fell naked from his hands, so that through Ronan’s curse he went, like any bird of the air, in madness and imbecility.

Ireland also has several famous wells that are said to cure insanity that date back millennia. As you said, history doesn’t lie, but your book certainly misleads in service of its thesis.


I was a public patient and they treated me with respect. I didn’t notice any difference. I was at the CUH in Cork.

Sorry it did exist at a rate of 1 in 30,000 as opposed to 1 in 100 right now.
If an idea is new please don’t be scared of it, it’s not intended to offend In fact I don’t know why it seems offensive.

This isn’t a new idea. We’ve heard it many times and many people here have tried going gluten free with no success. The issue is that going gluten free does not help the vast majority of people with schizophrenia. If it does help you, that is fantastic, and I think we’re all very happy to hear about your improvement. Promoting it as a general cure, however, is very dangerous and misleading.


A drastic reduction, if not full remission, of schizophrenic symptoms after initiation of gluten withdrawal has been noted in a variety of studies. However, this occurs only in a subset of schizophrenic patients.

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That’s great but what about the people who are gluten sensitive and get schizophrenic symptoms from it, they are being given pills for a degenerative immune disorder of the brain where gluten peptides cross the blood brain barrier and cause microglial dysfunction, leading to brain damage. I think these people deserve to know something that will stop their brain getting further damaged.
Don’t you agree, even if it’s just one person it will help?

It’s already out there. People know about it. Doctors know about it.


People know. It’s fine to say that this helped in your case and might help in the case of others. But your original presentation that this is a universal explanation, that everyone is being exploited, and that Irish people in general have sz because of bread is incorrect and dangerous.


I don’t think people know about, my doctors didn’t know about it, my psychiatrist didn’t know about it, in fact he didn’t want to see me again because he realised I knew more about my illness than him


We know.

The insidious type has the worst prognosis, we know. We know.

Non-hype and balanced documentary discussing the latest gluten related research.

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