Question if NCR should be redifined

I already talked about some of this before.

To say that mental health and neurodevelopmental disorders is not the cause for criminal behaviors is too broad.

Short answer is that most mental health and neurodevelopmental disorders is not the cause for criminal behaviors, but long answer is that mental health and neurodevelopmental disorders is the cause for criminal behaviors, but it depends on what mental health and neurodevelopmental disorders we are talking about.

The problem is that there are a lot of mental health and neurodevelopental disorders and each mental health and neurodevelopmental disorders are not the same to each other.

Statistically, most people with mental health and neurodevelopmental disorders are more likely to be victims than being perpetrators. There are however small-subgroup of people with mental health and neurodevelopmental disorders that commit crimes.

There are however some mental disorders that is related to criminal behaviors, it includes specific command hallucinations, specific delusions of paranoid and grandiose themes, and Erotomania, specific pathological jealousy , but criminal behaviors is more related to Distributive, Impulsive Control and Conduct Disorders, especially Antisocial Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder and specific Paraphilic Disorders. About Bipolar Disorder, criminal behaviors is more associated with Distributive, Impulsive Control and Conduct Disorders, and specific Paraphilic Disorders. Symptoms of Bipolar Disorder includes impulsively and risky behaviors.

About Communication Disorders and Autism Spectrum Disorder, criminal behaviors in Communication Disorders and Autism Spectrum Disorder is mostly related to lack of social skills, not out of maliciousness or sadism.

Sources:

https://www.mentalhealth.gov/basics/mental-health-myths-facts

Personality disorders can cause delusions if it is so severe.

Should NCR be redifined?

It’s important to remember that most people with mental health and neurodevelopmental disorders are more likely to be victims than being perpetrators.

One thing that scared me is I watched murder mysteries, Most Evil and those documentaries explains how delusions motivate those types of serial killers. Most of those serial killers were found NGRI, but some of those killers where found guilty at first, after some time in prison, their delusions became worse and they were also found NGRI as well. I think it’s because to be a serial killer, you need to be very intelligent and especially to cover your tracks, and another reason why some of those killers were found guilty at first, it is because they seem to know right from wrong, by the judge asking simple questions, if they understand the charges, some of those delusional killers said that they do, but were later found NGRI after being found sane. Another thing that scared me is slander case, one of them were found guilty, but I heard they they were also civility committed.

It’s like an isolated link between specific types of mental health and criminal behavior. Because, there is such thing as Insanity defence, incompetence, diminished capacity.

The scary thing is that when I watched documentaries of people becoming serial killers, they start to have a fixed, false belief of whom they are targeting and why. I asked my mom why when people kill three or more innocent people, something about their beliefs is delusional, and she explained to me that they have personality disorders that causes delusional thinking and that no one without those types of personality disorders would want to do that to innocent people.

Those personality disorders are Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, with symptom of delusions.

Those serial killers that got NGRI were diagnosed with personality disorders, with delusions as a symptom.

Those are videos documented by Dr. Stone, a foransic psychiatrist.

I wonder if I am correct.

Article:

I don’t really think it has to do with being a savant per say, being a serial criminal and hurting innocent people is very unhealthy, because you start to twist your fantasies and then act on your thoughts, making delusional excuses why you became a serial criminal and hurting innocent people. It’s reasons that a very healthy individual, individual without personality disorders that causes twisted fantasies will not understand. There is no good reason to hurt innocent people repeatedly, and it’s not healthy.

I don’t really agree with one thing from that article. Becoming a serial criminal, and hurting innocent people can cause delusions. There is no good reason to hurt innocent people repeatedly. There is some kind of twisted paranoid fantasies and explanations those types of criminals make after they are cought and interviewed. It’s just very unhealthy.

The term of legal insanity is problematic, because delusional criminals can understand the criminal charges against them, but were not tested accurately, and of course they do understand the criminal charges against them, they are adults, but the question of legal responsibility comes when there is even more evidence to suggest that they are delusional.

I think that definition of Not Criminally Responsible should be:

  1. Irrational understanding of the consequences of their actions, due to severe neurodevelopental disorder

  2. Might understand the nature of their actions, but had command hallucinations

  3. Delusions clouded the judgments to make right legal decisions.

Although insanity defence is rarely successful, I am sure there are a little bit more people that are in prison but should be NCR.

The problem is that when it comes to people who function well in society and have higher intelligence and are good at manipulation, that doesn’t preclude you from having delusions. When it comes to Schizophrenia, you would not be good at manipulation, because negative symptoms of Schizophrenia is also visible, and you don’t really function well in society.

Another problem is that having higher intelligence can be one aspect that you understand the nature of your actions, but that doesn’t rule out delusions either. That is why the legal definition for insanity is problematic when it comes to people with delusions but have higher intelligence.

I have been wondering if some people are supposed to be NCR, they committed killing and hidden and bodies, but not because they understand the consequences of their actions, but because they don’t want anyone to interfere with their delusions. Those types of delusional criminals are very intelligent, but hiding the bodies for the most part is an indacator that you know right from wrong, but in extremely rare situation, that is not always the case. As I watched those documentaries, most of those delusional criminals are very intelligent.

But those documentaries I watched is a little bit old, the reason why it’s old, it’s because those cases are rare, and statistically most people with mental health and neurodevelopmental disorders are more likely to be victims than being perpetrators.

I am sorry that I made a long paragraph. I hope you know what I mean.

Just knowing what is legal and what is legal isn’t enough, delusions shouldn’t cloud your judgments to make right legal decisions, or your thinking shouldn’t be pathologically irrational.

Ill be honest. You post is way to long for anyone to read. That might better as a blog post for you

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I agree. That’s way too much info in one post. A lot of us have concentration problems so we can’t read such long text.

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You don’t have to read the whole thing, you can read the NCR part.

I should make a blog post, my post is too long.

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