Part of me believes I could be the (allegorical) Christ. Delusion or bad metaphysics?

(I know it’s hard because I’m discussing unusual beliefs of a religious nature, but please let’s not turn this into a religious discussion).

Additional disclaimers:

  1. This is more speculation and half-hearted belief than a full-blown discussion, but there is always a chance it could escalate further.
  2. In this model I’d be the only “person”, the Christ archetype, “tempted” by the devil into embracing a make-believe universe populated by other people.
  3. Religious texts are the product of the unconscious negotiation between the devil and I.
  4. I havent’ hallucinated any of this, or claim to have received a “revelation”. My would-be-beliefs are the end product of a long chain of reasoning.

What do you think? Delusion or a harmless metaphysical thought experiment?

Maybe you should watch this movie.

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Is this about when you have more than one guy in the room claiming to be Christ? In my model everyone is Christ because everyone is the same person, so I wouldn’t be offended by someone else making the same claim.

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How do you end up with these thoughts?

I honestly don’t think your looking for an honest answer. I don’t think you will appreciate my contribution to this thread but It’s obviously a delusion. And I’m going to post anyway. I’m not the same person as you. When I was psychotic i had thoughts that I could be Jesus Christ as well. That’s all it is: delusional thinking. I think you are looking for someone to agree with you. Someone to validate your beliefs. Someone to say “well, you don’t fully believe it…it’s fine”. You always say: “well it’s only a half-hearted belief”. But you continue to make posts on the subject. I think you need meds and maybe counseling. That’s my honest answer. Sorry, but I think you need an honest answer from someone who is NOT you.

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I guess that by thinking about them. :crazy_face: More seriously, it also started with the challenges posed by solipsism, even though I’m not a fully-fledged solipsist.

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And how did religious stuff got into the mix?

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I beg to differ, and I appreciate both your honesty and contribution. But the truth is that the fact that I don’t fully believe my unusual beliefs, and retaining always some degree of insight, ironically makes the process of self-understanding and acceptance of my diagnosis harder rather than easier.

Well, I already half-agree with myself, so I’d rather have people disagreeing with me. It’s not being right that I’m after but ascertaining the truth, whatever that might be. My part-time unusual beliefs make me physically sick at times. Thanks in any case for your input.

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In this model, what is the difference between you being the allegorical Christ, yet at the same time we are all the same person.I mean, how does that work?

How is it that we could all be the same person when every human has a unique DNA set which codes for a unique me, that you cannot be. (I guess…) and a unique you etc…

Just curious

When I say “Christ” I just mean an archetype. But if every entity is divine at the exclusion of every conceivable non-divine entity, a holy family as it were, should we be still speaking of religion?

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I appreciate your cordial response.

I wasn’t always certain of every bizarre thing that my psychotic brain thought up when I was psychotic either, I nonetheless was delusional. It’s good you have some insight but these ideas of thinking your Christ are right out of the Psychotic handbook. I remember once you were waffling with the idea that other people were demons too. and you were scared. Another definite Psychotic symptom.

I wish you luck anyway. I hope you will consider meds and/or counseling as they do work for most people.

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I say “allegorical” in the everyday sense according to the shared world. My nutty half believes that “Christ” is in fact the only human being in the universe.

I’m not smart enough to understand you, nvm.

Hope you get clarity.

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Not “understanding” other people’s delusions is probably what being smart is all about. Karl Jaspers would have agreed with you.

Well thankyou for the ‘probable’ compliment lol.

:crazy_face:

I’m really not incredibly smart though.

My motivation for learning things is poor.

I hope it improves.

And I hope you find an understanding of the universe that you feel fully comfortable with.

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Too much thinking in a landscape with rabbit holes

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