Neuropsychological testing results in

The neuropsychological testing results are in. They state that my responses are blunted and I am showing a slowing of motor and cognitive functioning. She indicated that my IQ was 103 plus or minus 15 points, which I find surprising since my last one was in the 130-140 range. She indicated that much of what she was seeing could be disease related and stated if I was in remission would have higher scores.

Problem is that SZA is rarely curable but can have periods of remission once a balance of medication, social support and therapeutic intervention is made.


When did your sz onset? Are u a late onset case? Do u feel anything wrong with u prior to the onset?

I’m sorry to hear this… but at least your getting some answers now.

Hopefully you’ll be on the road to a prolonged remission

I started hearing voices at the age of 12. My diagnosis came the second semester of my freshman year. I always felt that life was especially hard on me but I was in psychosis for a while and probably wouldn’t have been treated when I was if it wasn’t for a botched suicide attempt. I can say that I was emancipated at 15 and there was a battery of psychological tests given then, that how I know my IQ, but my symptoms did not add up to pathology at that time. But honestly I wanted out of the house so badly that I was careful what I said to make sure it would happen.

Well, you can get better. It’s very possible. The medications and therapy can often work wonders, like in my case.

I think intelligence tests are often fluctuating in times of the day and ones mood. I took two different ones, scored 133 and 134, which is a gift for me, but intelligence is not the only thing. I’ve met plenty who are intelligent to extremes who lacked ambition, discipline, passion, ect.

You are aging, not to be rude, so I am not really surprised to hear that some deficits in cognition are occurring. You probably know this, but with people with schizophrenia, as we age, our positive symptoms reduce and our negative symptoms increase.

Schizoaffective is in my opinion worse. By that I mean it is harder to live with and harder to treat. I’ve met someone with schizoaffective and I hungout with him, and wow he misbehaved to the criminal degree.

So by that I mean good on you for being good despite having schizoaffective.

You might want to keep in mind that with the mood disturbances, things like cognition fluctuate too.

You seem to be okay even compared to normal people, so I wouldn’t worry about it. Sure it might suck to go from your height when you earned your Ph.D. but you still have it and no one can take it away.

I myself foresee a shift from positive to negative symptoms upon right after middle age. It’s got pros and cons just like my current state.

my IQ is lower than that… :blush:
a mark on a test does not define the capacity of the brain .
it is a moment in time…that is all :sunny:
take care :alien:

Pretty obviously the very excellent MCCB (see

All of the psychotic spectrum disorders effect cognitive processing, of which IQ is a measure. (Some actually go up with bipolar mania and then way, way down with bipolar depression.) Sz almost always induces so much cognitive distortion and “white noise” that it is profoundly cognitive process slowing and debilitating. And the best meds we have for sz don’t help in many – though far from all – cases, especially at high doses. That said, I have seen quite a few people who tested in the 100+/- range on the MCCB come back up very significantly (as I did) when they did the following:

  1. Get a copy of this book and read it and have their families read it, as well.

  2. Get properly diagnosed by a board-certified psychopharmacologist who specializes in the psychotic disorders. One can find them at…

  3. Work with that “psychiatrist” (or “p-doc”) to develop a medication formula that stabilizes their symptoms sufficiently so that they can tackle the psychotherapy that will disentangle their thinking.

  4. The best of the therapies for that currently include…
    DBT –
    MBSR –
    ACT –
    10 StEP –

  5. the even newer somatic psychotherapies like…
    MBBT –
    SEPT –
    SMPT –

  6. or standard CBTs, like…
    REBT –
    Schematherapy –
    Learned Optimism –
    Standard CBT –

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