"Meditation."

What are they telling you anyway?

When did meditating become not thinking?

That’s the opposite of what it is, it’s deep study and thinking, not not thinking.

What the hell?

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Somehow music positively triggers my mind …

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edited… It’s better to not share… I will say true meditation requires certain things… Everyone should keep thinking while doing it… Good way to calm down and relax …

Yeah, that is exactly as I’ve been told what true “meditation” is. It’s contemplating/reasoning. Not mindlessness.

I’ve meditated for some moments of mindlessness but it doesn’t really do anything. It’s mostly nice if you got someone else guiding you with a soothing voice.

However, I’ve had some personal experiences which come about when remaining unaffected by everyone else for a while and remaining calm/content/focused/aware. All of that doesn’t come about though without reasoning first.

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Christian meditation is deep study and thinking about Scripture and Christ’s life. Buddhist meditation is thinking about your breath while breathing in and out. Very different.

i agree with you wholeheartedly. a schizophrenic might have trouble meditating with racing thoughts

My only experience with meditation was during my first psychotic break. For whatever reason I was able to meditate. I meditated at least 5 times for 15 minutes each. That may not sound like a long time but I sat motionless, staring at exactly the same spot, totally focused and completely relaxed but completely aware of my surroundings. It may sound like I was focusing on ‘nothing’ but it was actually quite relaxing to focus the mind on one thing and I felt really good afterwards too. I think meditation can help us have a better handle on our own brains. Problem is, I haven’t been able to do it since then! lol. I think I am going to try tho. My brain liked it.

I don’t get racing thoughts.

I do both types.

Racing thoughts are just that, rapid thoughts and feeling, to much to fast, an overload, you can understand it i’m sure.

I’ve only experienced racing thoughts once in my lifetime. And then, only for a few minutes.

I take a single thought gathered from the daytime and take it to it’s farthest extreme, kind of resembles a tree- from root to leaf, and by the time I get to the leaf, I’m in a different space and fall asleep.

There are free audios on YouTube that can help you calm your thoughts so that you can meditate. I have used them for study and sleep. They really help.

Right, put yourself in a trance so that you can think deeply, ask many questions, and learn valuable information.

Meditation requires time, health, hard work, and time, and lust for the truth probably.

Thought or no thought, that is the question.

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Sorry, yes, I sometimes misrepresent meditation as the suppression of thought.

It seems to me that Japanese Buddhist meditation often suppresses linguistic thought, either directly as in Zen where folks attempt to silence the mind by thinking about the breath, or via the repetition of a mantra, which makes linguistic thought difficult by drowning it out (thus ‘mantra meditation is sitting Zen for the less self-disciplined’, opined an ex-Zen mantra-Buddhist that I read recently).

At the same time, I think that other sorts of thought and awareness are at the same time increased.

And a lot of the mantras are the name of a god, or Sutra, which I guess encourages a focus upon names and naming. I thought that this name repetition this was perhaps explained rather well by the Being John Malkovich clip that you kindly shared.

That said, Rinzai Zen uses Koans which are short riddles so that is I guess if not encouraging at least using linguistic thought as does the meditation that @loveaguilarg mentioned.

There are so many types of meditation. I just Googled a list of 23 types, including the audio type I think that @47average kindly shared. I may have a go at that.

I’ll meditate on this post and I’ll get back to you tomorrow.