Jupiter and Saturn closer than 800 years on December 21

Apparently, Jupiter and Saturn are going to be closer in the sky than they’ve been in 800 years, and that is going to be on the day of the winter solstice.

That seems like a significant celestial event to me.

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Significant how?

I’m confused, the article doesn’t mention the impact of this event on my love life

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Radio astrology is a young science, not quite peer reviewed yet but getting there.

There does seem to be some confusion.

I’m not an astrologer. I think that most astrology that I’ve seen has been nonsense. I don’t think that it belongs to mankind to make accurate predictions based on the positions of stars.

I think that it does obviously belong to us to see very unusual celestial events, and wonder whether there will be any coincidence with earthly events, even if that coincidence is engineered by humans for psychological impact.

I will try to reply to what I think your question might imply. I may be tangential. Here is my impulse reaction: a celestial event would be remarkable but really, what would that help us with? I kind of dream of more land than we have on planet Earth. I just have to wonder.

Can you give any historical example of a “coincidence” engineered for psychological impact?

This probably doesn’t fit that bill, but something I think on is why are the sun and moon the same size from our vantage point. It’s totally beautiful and coincidental and it actually makes me just a tad more theological than scientific.

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Cognitive biases aside, the sun and the moon have in fact different apparent sizes. During a total sun eclipse the moon’s disc is slightly larger than that of the sun, and during ring eclipses slightly smaller.

Easily

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/how-eclipses-were-regarded-as-omens-in-the-ancient-world-81248

“In order to preempt the monarch’s fate, a mechanism was devised: the “substitute king ritual,” or “šar pūhi.” There are over 30 mentions of this ritual in various letters from Assyria (northern Mesopotamia), dating to the first millennium B.C.”

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You’re right, and eclipses were also used by the Spanish during the conquest period, but I meant in contemporary Western societies, sorry for not being clearer. In any case your comments seem quite ambiguous in parts, as if you felt uncomfortable about disclosing your full position.

I know but it’s SO close… I want to see a full solar eclipse before my time is up. Thanks I just realized something I want for the bucket list. I need more passions definitely.

Of course I don’t disclose my full position here. I’ve made it clear that I’m a religious person, and religion is forbidden on this site.

Isn’t that simple to understand? Why question it?

I’m not questioning it, but when you post about “engineered or unusual coincidences” in the unusual beliefs section don’t be too surprised if people challenge your delusions.

Fair enough. A belief that something significant may happen, engineered by humans or not, on this December 21st may in fact be a delusion.

Something “significant” happens every single day and I’m sure the 21st won’t be an exception. But to return to your original post, you described the “coincidence” between winter solstice and the jupiter and saturn conjunction as a “significant celestial event”, but never explained why.

Now you are just being silly.

The winter solstice has been seen as a significant celestial event since long before the Romans thousands of years ago.

The two biggest planets in our solar system are coming closer than they have in 800 years on that same day, and you wonder what is unusual about that? What do you want, a statistical or bayesian analysis of the obvious?

I think I’m going to stop replying to these silly questions.

Firstly, you’re being dishonest, trying to conceal your true position (a superstitious, perhaps delusional commitment to “coincidence”) behind a more reasonable facade. Secondly, the coincidence between 2 distinct celestial events don’t add up to a third, larger celestial event. This is clearly faulty reasoning on your part. Thirdly, you are conflating 2 very different meanings of significance, but you probably already knew that. That’s usually referred to as moving the signposts as you find it convenient to do so. Fourthly, why post this “science and society” post in the unusual beliefs section? Fifthly, there is nothing unusual about 2 planets coming - from our narrow earthly perspective - closer together. The unusual thing would be if they didn’t

As long as you continue to conflate rare or infrequent or “culturally worth celebrating” with “significant” you’ll remain in cuckoo land. I’m not going to insist either, clearly you’re not interested in seriously discussing your unusual beliefs, not even in the unusual beliefs section.

my mother told me about this the other day. I forgot.

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