They’ve been especially annoying last couple of days. I’m trying to do what my therapist and I talked about, defuse from them, not accepting it as my own wishes but as fears/unwanted.
I know a lot of people here suffers from them… we are not our thoughts.
Today all morning I got intrusive thoughts. As if someone is purposefully haunting me in my head using some technology. Garbage in garbage out no efficiency. Failure…
No one plants those thoughts, there’s no one to blame for them. They’re just thoughts. We don’t need to take them seriously or into consideration.
You’re not a failure for having them
My intrusive thoughts are almost unbearable because they clash with my morals. When I have sexual thoughts about other men or my parents or younger brothers it always throws me off.
But its a trade off for me, remain on a high dose and lose cognitive functioning or maintain a lower dose and have these disturbing intrusive thoughts.
They’re not from psychosis, you know that right? Aps don’t work on them, only ads and we can’t really take them, a lot of us anyway.
Sorry they’re so rough to you, do you see a therapist? Therapy might help you to deal with them. They don’t reflect your desires, more like your fears and what you don’t want for yourself. They’re irrational.
When I took 50 mg selegiline for one month I was sooooo healthy no illness and I was working all day but I was kicking air as if I’m having seizures so I had to quit. The british book posted in some other topic by me, the great pharma book says 60 mg for depression. But it has too many side effects at higher doses but it was heaven. Must quit. so problems again…
They seem to get better around the time I take my medication so I have always assumed they have some effect. Seroquel and Rexulti bot affect serotonin just like an antidepressant would.
I’ve been on antidepressants and they don’t help with the intrusive thoughts. I’m positive I can say its intrusive thoughts as a result of stereotypical thinking, not ocd.
I feel like talking therapy is a waste of money for me, I have poverty of speech so the therapist will do most of the talking. And if the therapist has never had sz how can they advise me?
I think therapy with the right therapist is good for some people but it is just too easy to end up with the wrong therapist, and then what have you got?
I was jealous of my old therapist, she was so high functioning and never faced any challenges in life like I have. She has a great job and everything seems to be falling into her lap. A person like that cannot possibly advise someone whose life story is as dark as mine.
Well, not meant to offend with this at all so don’t take it the wrong way please, but you do seem to act like you know better than professionals, and that can be a problem for you on the long run, a real obstacle for recovery.
Talk therapy is very benefitial. I’ve learned not to believe I’m a bad person because of my intrusive thoughts, for example. Learned how to deal with them when they come, how to react to them. Just from moderating you, I can tell you would benefit from it.
Why compare yourself to a neurotypical? And even comparing yourself, they do that for a living, they’ve seen really bad situations.
If you were open to others helping you, you probably would be in a better shape.
Nothing is fixed in stone. For the first year after my hospitalization I hardly spoke, couldn’t form sentences and prefered to stay quiet. That passed with training myself to talk, first about superfluos things, then off to meaningful. If you just resign yourself to learned helplessness you won’t get out of the gutter.
Before coming to terms with my mental illness, I did a lot of bad things, I had a lot of bad thoughts and I changed. So I don’t think you should wallow in self pitty and refuse treatment because you think others wouldn’t understand, I think you would be surprised on how well mental health professionals understand our issues, and we’re there to educate them further too. It’s a win-win situation.
Of course there are bad professionals, but that’s why we learn how to pick them, if one doesn’t help, others might.
Don’t give up on your recovery because of stubborness.
For me, I had intrusive thoughts in part due to stress during psychosis, even though it is not necessarily to do with psychosis. I have a question, does having intrusive thoughts cause fear as well? I suppose part of cbt would be to minimize the emotional reaction. I guess I would just like to think it is not as terrifying an experience as it was for me.
Professionals know better than we do but there is something wrong with the professionals. Most of them practice what they read in the books no research what so ever. For example there is a book written by a Doctor, he wrote this book because Grape seed extract cured his Wife’s disease.
What your Doctor doesn’t know about nutritional medicine may be killing you.
How true. Written by a Professional and he says other professionals simply don’t know.
Yeah, I didn’t have intrusive thoughts before my psychotic break either. Maybe it was the stress yeah, I don’t know what caused them. I had other ocd symptoms before, though.
Yes, CBT helps a lot on how to deal with the intrusive thoughts. I’ve learned a lot of coping mechanisms.
I too exhibit symptoms of OCD but I never mention that because I already have
Depression
Paranoid Sz
Restless leg syndrome
Insomnia
Teeth birth defect
Professionals know a lot more than we do. It’s the same as building houses, you woulnd’t hire an accountant with no previous knowledge of construction just because he also has a house, right?
Yes I know but what makes me laugh is when they blindly follow limited books
Clearly not all professionals are pioneers in their fields or what ever
It takes a pretty fair amount of restraint for others to deal with me and my intrusive thoughts sometimes. People can tell when I’m thinking something horrible.
I understand that living in India and all, you have that view of medical professionals. But don’t assume it’s like that in the rest of the world. I have a great medical team on my back, and even if they don’t have time to follow all the research, they still know a lot more than we do.
That must be the reason why I always think your posts make me think you are quite healthy
on the other hand I’m struggling
My intrusive thoughts fit right in with my avoidant personality disorder. They’re why I keep to myself.