…On the eastern front?
I think schizophrenics actually have an comparative advantage in perilous situations like war.
Not that it is anything you would want to think about or live through. In fact you might want to pray to God that you may remain ignorant of war for your entire life.
If there is something that could make me religious, then the unavoidable draft would be it.
I don’t think I can possibly make it. So we know that one typical symptom of schizophrenia is that we have “delusions.” I believe in the existence of telepathy, so I will say that the Germans could easily find me and kill me, if you have to put me on the battlefield. Even if you deny telepathy, maybe many people with schizophrenia will still have hallucinations, which can greatly and negatively affect their abilities to interpret the reality and make quick, reasonable decisions, and decision-making skills are extremely vital and important under a setting of warfare. Hence, I counter your argument by saying that we have an “advantage” in war, I think we are largely disadvantaged, and the game of war is very unfair to us.
But you’re right about one thing: I indeed want to be ignorant regarding war, for my entire life. I don’t think that anyone on this forum is suitable for serving in the military. And the draft is not unavoidable, at least in my country, military service is not compulsory, it’s on a voluntary basis. However, if you one day receive a conscription, you may show your diagnosis as an excuse and argue against it, maybe you can get an exemption. I don’t think that people like us can even pass the medical check-up before enlistment
I tend to believe that the paranoid survive more often then not, which we definitely have a case of that, and in war I think the insane who are willing to take the risks to survive will outlive those who react internally to their own ‘sane’ reasoning.
We often tend to be closed minded of hallucinations and other spiritual-like events as detriments, from our experience in modern society, but it could be beneficial in other environments, similar to taking LSD and having a positive experience under stress, which doesn’t always happen (it can be a bad experience just as well.)
A fun fact is that the vikings would take hallucinogenic mushrooms to get high, and then get into a battle frenzy, before charging into the fight fearlessly. Probably a bad idea in a modern war with ranged weapons, but there is a precedent to ‘helpful’ hallucinations.
I don’t think people with schizophrenia could make social adaptions, but in war sociability is not the deciding factor, if still helpful in solidarity.
As for a draft, I tend to think of Ukraine as a prime example. I take the cautious route of assuming that there are no exceptions to the draft, save those in power and their families, from within a war-psychosis society.
In a real war, if you had two arms, and could drink liqueur while walking backwards, then they could sign you up to be a fighter pilot. Schizophrenia diagnosed being a less important consideration.
Does it make sense? No. And that is how you know you are in the military.
If I wasn’t killed in hand to hand combat I think I would survive. I’m one persistent guy and unfortunately I seem bent on surviving. It would probably ravage my body with injury cold and starvation but I would get through it. I believe in myself.
I think I could survive, but I would have to increase my luck be any means possible and form tight solidarity with the people who would keep me alive outside of combat.
Maybe my voices would guide me through the perils of war as they do with everyday life and that I could of survived WW2.
If there was a Burger King there I would survive 
Different people may have different perceptions and experiences regarding schizophrenia. They may have hallucinations, they may have delusions, they may have disorganized thoughts and/or speech, and they may have a group of different symptoms. Whilst there are clear, theoretical definitions of what schizophrenia is, different people do experience it differently. For example, some people may believe that they are the chosen one, something like a savior, like Leo in Matrix. So they can survive anything, no one can kill them, an the European Eastern Front, one of the deadliest and the most brutal battlefield in the history of human warfare, is a piece a cake for them. For another instance, as I have said, I believe in the fact that telepathy exists, so the Germans could easily find me, arrest me, and treat me to their friendly gas room for shower. Whether you will actually survive is based on your specific situation and circumstances, and your ability to make reasonable plans and decisions, and, of course, based on luck. Different people have individual thoughts and opinions, but I still insist that people with schizophrenia are disadvantaged in warfare.
You have made a good point regarding the Scandinavians. That said, I still insist that, although bravery and fearlessness are very crucial in warfare, it is equally important to be able to think critically and make reasonable, logical decisions. At the individual level, just at the front, and under a pre-modern setting, bravery is important. However, as you go up in the rank and become some kind of an officer or commander, the importance of having a clear, reasonable mind increases. On the other hand, there were a lot of sober people without any mental illness who could behave in a very brave, fearless manner. If you have seen the film “Enemy at the Gates,” you knew that, at the Eastern Front, the Russians sometimes forced their conscripts to rush towards the German line of defense, and they had some commissars and designated people to “supervise” the assault of the conscripts. If the conscripts dared to run back, they used a machine gun to massacre them. For another example, the Empire of Japan used to brainwash their soldiers into showing absolute loyalty to their Emperor. The Japanese soldiers could run towards you, in their hands there was a rifle with a pointy bayonet at the edge of it. Those soldiers did not have schizophrenia, but they behaved like crazy maniacs. The monsters behaved like this when they massively invaded my country, and also in the Pacific, when your country had to deal with them. If you want to observe them, you can have a try on the video game Call of Duty. Nevertheless, I’m still not fully convinced that being “brave” and “fearless” would increase your likelihood of surviving the Eastern Front, as I personally believe that those “insane” behaviours, like holding a knife and running towards your enemy, are not the best way to fight a war. This is the exact reason that I think critical thinking with reason and logic is also very important.
Yes, if you live in Ukraine or Palestine, then the war is directly related to you, it’s a matter of life or death, just like in the game This War of Mine. You indeed need to defend your country, but it also doesn’t mean that everyone should be enlisted. You can serve in the military as a soldier, or you can also contribute to the defense of your country as a civilian. In fact, if you forcibly enlist someone who is not suitable for serving in the military, then it may backfire and harm your national interests. People with schizophrenia cannot control their psychosis or episodes, their illness is passive, not like an ability or a gift. What if, when facing severe pressure, they develop mania, and commit friendly fire? This is why every mature country does have a rigorous standard for enlistment.
I indeed don’t know much about how things are done in the United States of America, at least from a military perspective. The US is a modern, developed superpower, isn’t it? Maybe you once served in the US Army, and they did things in that way. But, is it many years ago or not? I guess they may have changed their practice, in accordance to the demands of modern warfare, is that correct?
In my country, the requirements for enlistment are very rigorous. They have requirements on height and weight, and people with schizophrenia tend to be overweight, due to the anti-psychotic medications, so I’m out. They also have requirements on eye-sight, both eyes. I have poor eye-sights and wear a pair of glasses, so I’m also not eligible. What’s more, it’s written in black and white that people with some certain mental illnesses cannot enlist, including schizophrenia, depression, mania, etc. So I’m completely out. I do have two arms, I am able to drink alcohol, and I can walk backwards for a little bit, but there’s no way I can be even an infantry in my country, let alone pilot for a fighter’s jet. The military service is voluntary in my country, but I cannot join the military, no matter whether I want to or not.
On a side note, there are checks on things unrelated to health as well. If you have tattoo, and your uniform cannot cover it to a certain extent when you wear your uniform, then you’re out. Also, there are some special requirements if you want to serve in some special units, like you want to be a parachuter, or you want to serve in the special forces or on a submarine.
Of course, different countries have different laws and policies, and nothing is universal. The idea is that a mature army should only allow people who meet the requirements to join them, and leave out the people who are just unsuitable or fail to comply with the requirements.
surviving a war is a lot to do with luck i think.
i can’t answer the question really…
I got your back leks 
we gonna make it out alive 
Could I survive. Hmmmm….
Not a ■■■■■■■ chance.
Moved to Unusual Beliefs now.
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I may be good at shooting in video games,
But IRL ?
Id be dead within seconds.
I’m sorry, Moderator, I’m new to this forum, did I break any rules? Apologies.
I feel like this thread is directly related to the thoughts and opinions of schizophrenics, so discussing unusual believes is unavoidable.
What is the unusual belief in this case? The belief that telepathy exists, or the denial of it? I will of course try to watch my tongue and obey the forum rules henceforth.
my grandfather served in WW II and was a prisoner of war…horrible stuff…he talked about it all the time.
My grandmothers eldest brother was a POW. Japanese had him. He escaped though. He’s long gone now but I remember him when I was very young and he used to throw himself on the floor when he heard a plane
My great grandfather on my dad’s side was in WW1. He got shot in the leg and survived.
I think I could survive a concentration camp or a ww3 if I’m not killed in combat. I took am bent on life
@Qwerty wow thanks for sharing…yes they went through hell…
There is no conclusive evidence of telepathy at this time, at least not pure telepathy as depicted in movies and books. Therefore:
The belief in telepathy is considered a delusion around here until someone demonstrates it’s real and others are able to verify it scientifically. Also…
It’s a very triggering topic that can make people sicker if they dwell on it so we’d prefer to keep it off the table if we can. Reddit is the place to go if you want to debate this sort of thing. This site is a refuge for people who are trying to get better from their illness, not indulge in conversations that make it worse.
Thanks for understanding.
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Your explanation is detailed, Mod, and I will definitely conform with all published forum regulations. Also, I have zero desire to debate anything beyond what the forum rules allow.
Thank you for your professionalism.