I was a gifted student, tested high iq, smart genes. Alas all to waste due to severe anhedonia.
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Idkā¦I went to the #1 public high school in my state based on SAT grades of my graduating classā¦we had like 10+ people with perfect SAT or ACT scores. I got an 1870 which was pretty good. So maybe the fact that I was smart AND didnāt fit inā¦the combination made me come down with SZ. But it wasnāt smart alone because those perfect SATāers didnāt get SZ. It was middle of the line kids like me who were social outcasts who got it. The less smart ones didnāt get SZ either. It was the āsmart onesā who werenāt āsmart enoughā to succeed in such an environment. That said idk of anyone else who got SZ but if 1% of the population does there must have been 2 others lol.
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I think the smarter you are the crazier you can beā¦so thatās why Iām delightfully insaneā¦
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i think the smart person must once be an animal.
hard situation make him or her stronger in this life
Iāve always been too smart for my own good. I never really thought of this question before but my answer would be that I doubt it. There are intelligent and not so intelligent people who become schizophrenic. That kind of answers your question.
I wasnāt too āwell-roundedāā¦ almost always picked last in gym class teamsā¦ missed school a lot even though
I still got really good grades. I kind of pushed myself a little too hard because my older brothers were very successful academically and there was always an implicit expectation that I would do well in school too even though my family was never ever nasty about it. When I went to school though teachers remembered my brothers and expected me to do just as wellā¦ sheeesh
Having a high IQ is just another (probably smaller) risk factorā¦ I have had friends who didnāt do well in school and still got sick with delusions and hallucinationsā¦ the āsmarterā ones do seem to get more paranoia though.
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I would like to think of myself as intelligent. However what about the intellect drop after psychosis. That could be temporary but I also wonder why more nobel laureates arenāt schizophrenic. Although I still believe that Tesla couldāve been schizophrenic and he was one of the greats. If we are more intelligent then we should show it. I want to see more schizophrenics with advanced degrees. And I would like to see more schizophrenics making discoveries. Iām not condensing what you posted just wishing something to be true I guess.
I think being sick has made me more emphatic towards others with invisible disabilities like mental illnesses, physical aliments that cant be seen by the human eye stuff like that.
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Actually āintelligenceā as measured by school tests isnāt the whole pictureā¦there are many ways to be mentally , socially, emotionally (etc.) adaptable ā¦ For the most part, SATs and IQ tests donāt measure emotional/social intelligence, impulse management, creativity, courage, aesthetics, spontaneity, tenacity, planning, optimism, empiricismā¦ I wonder if high IQ schizophrenics were tested in these areas if there would be deficiencies tooā¦ I am sure I had a lot of problems with all of these things and worse yet had a lot of tunnel vision about getting good grades.
It might even be good to measure these things in their teachers too since I think I picked up a lot of bad mental habits from some of themā¦
I would say that the biggest crime committed in education worldwide is that skeptical thinking is not encouraged at all (mainly because most teachers donāt know how to use doubt as a tool themselvesā¦ almost none of my teachers in my grammar school or high school really showed us how to do an experiment other than maybe watch mold grow on bread) ā¦kids have very little means to test whether something is true or not and that is the core problem of schizophrenia (desperate to fill the voids revealed by doubts) and most of the worldās politics.
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i was a smart kid and no it didnt. i think its genetic
I was really smart but it runs in my family so I say no
I actually read that lower intelligence was equated with a higher chance of psychosis compared to higher intelligence
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its said in movie prison break.but schizophrenia is about afterlife.so it doesnāt matter
I see an IQ test
Mensa
I read that too, and also, that the prognosis is a bit better for higher intelligence (as just one of the factors predicting prognosis)
Somewhat counterintuitive to me, at first. For I would think similar to @flameoftherhine , something along the lines that a more powerful mind can entangle itself in more powerful delusions, perhaps maybe more coherent and more difficult to disprove for that reasonā¦ if itās a mind up against itself, then itās always a level playing fieldā¦
But apparently itās not like that the research suggests. I donāt know if meta-cognition (thinking about thinking), shows up in measures of intelligence, but maybe that can account for the difference. It seems less affected in me during psychosis than my initial āfirst orderā thoughts are.
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Myeahā¦ Prollyā¦
Well putā¦Iām a super hero when Ive gone super szā¦Iāve molded all my fears into a weaponā¦the secret is to laugh at it allā¦its one big joke anywayā¦laugh children of the moon its good for the soulā¦
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Yeah I found in psychosis that some sense of dark humor can help cope and not get carried away with some symptoms. I suppose it doesnāt make you any less crazy when laughing at voices or intrusive thoughts then when not doing so, but it keeps the spirit up 
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I was smart, just not in math.
I scored in the top 99% in my English standardized test scores throughout my k-12 years.
I scored in the top 99% in my analytical writing test score for the Graduate Record Exam I took upon graduating with my BA back in 2015.
I was too unusually bright throughout k-12. Teachers would go out of their way to inform me of my intelligence, and about how it was okay to be not like anyone else (that was very kind of them).
I agree that being intelligent can lead to negative consequences in society, such as social exclusion, isolation, sabotage, etcā¦, which can trigger or exacerbate pre-existing sz, but I donāt know if there is a direct link between intelligence and the emergence of schizophrenia.
Then thereās people like John Nash, though, who make me wonder if there is a habitual, statistical outlier (a category of people who land outside the intelligence range common for the majority of people) that exists within the sz population.
When sz are smart, theyāre like uber smart. I wish I was one, but alas, I can only take credit for my abilities within the written language. Math, y u no love me like I love you???
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