I am listening to a YouTube talk right now and the guy is talking about physics, about the past, present and future taking place simultaneously blah, blah, blah.
I love to listen to anything (that I can understand) re: physics, the Universe etc but I don’t beleive the future has taken place yet nor do I believe it is predetermined. I think the future is detemined by choice and chance. What do you think?
He is also saying that we chose our lives. I might be able to buy that one. Maybe…
But I don’t believe the future has happened yet or that it is preset.
I can’t honestly say I know. Smarter people than me have argued about this with no real conclusion. I also wonder if there is any such thing as true randomness. When you frame the question that way, and you answer no, it makes the future seem more determined. I tend to believe there is such a thing as randomness.
I believe in randomness too. That’s the ‘chance’ part. I choose to drive to work, by chance I get rear ended on the way. IMO, that’s how it works. That’s how life happens. We do our damned-est to make good choices but there are still things out of our control that will happen. Also, natural disasters are ‘chance’ or ‘random’. (IMO)
I’m amazed that you’re able to make sense of anything while taking these meds. All I want to do is stare off into space or look online for new meds because these suck so badly
It’s way too late for a topic like this for me, but here I am looking at it.
Some thoughts start pouring into my head though about it like a dialogue when I was trying to sleep last night.
It started with, "You know something as small as the birth of a tadpole is significant."
and somewhere goes, "Cause and effect never cease to function, you know?"
then ends with “You’re crazy if you think that!”
“I choose what I want!”
“But at any one point in time something will still influence those choices. Even something as small as staring at a butterfly.”
Something about that. I forgot what else I had in mind…
I like your analogy about choice and chance. I think people sometimes choose not to believe in chance because so many horrible things happen, and it is scary to know that we don’t have control over them. Any belief is preferable to that for many of us.
Yes, indeed. People want to believe we have control. Very scary to think our control is limited.
It depends on the day. I hope that it’s determined by choice lol. I wouldn’t feel as free otherwise. Like that show West World.
Its easy enough to see the effects of chance and ‘fate’, not so much the effects (or existence) of meaningful choice
I think our live being predetermined is possible up to a point. We make conscious decisions good and bad and our life takes its course. The possibility of both timelines existing when we make our choice is where I prefer to believe our predetermination lives may indeed be possible. Which timeline we take is our choice, but it may go to a different preset route and end.
I think that it depends on your condition.
I for example my health buries me.
For healthy people it might be different.
It’s not, I can do anything different, for example I could rant on here, get ignorant, sign off for good or what ever, only I know what I’m going to do
That’s the neat trick. You believe you are making your own decisions, but it may be what was predetermined anyway.
You don’t think there are any things which influence your choices?
I am unsure if I can say the future is pre-determined…
But I can say I believe in a Creator, Higher Intelligence, God, whatever you wish to call it. And I believe this higher intelligence has a plan for all of us. Be it - in the current universe or the afterlife.
Sorry if this all sounds esoteric. Just my beliefs on the matter. Take care 
There are , but for the most part I have often changed my plans, I get bored easy
Sounds like getting bored easily may be one of the many things that influence your choices then
Then the question is whether this creator is omniscient? If so then the creator would know everything that would happen in the universe it created. Which would mean the future could only go as the creator knows it will
Some things are predestined for us, engraved in our DNA. But the way DNA is arranged at birth is partially predestined (by our parents’ DNA) and partially random, by spontaneous mutations.