Another offering to the void

Unusual Beliefs
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So I was thinking about the near paradoxical difference of nonpathological delusions and pathological ones. As always the issue of direct and indirect realism plays a role. While it’s almost certainly true that indirect realism is the correct perspective for understanding human experience, there is an argument for direct realism as the ultimate basis for reality. So while I’m an indirect realist because I’m sz and also because I accept that we live in a slightly delayed simulation our minds make of the world we live in, I’m an direct realist in accepting that there is a real world that is distinct from our minds, and reality is the accurate perception and interpretation of this world. But in relation to the difference between pathological and nonpathological delusions, I think nonpathological ones are usually socially based, and pathological ones are psychological. I studied both sociology and psychology and figure sociology is more direct realist because its focus is on the social obviously, and psychology studies the indirect reality of our minds. A nonpathological delusion (even though it could stem from someone’s pathology) comes from the social sphere, something you read online, or something a political figure says, or part of the ideas of a religious or political group. So in actuality the person who has this kind of delusion is coherent with the direct reality of their political and social group. A pathological delusion is one where the internet connection has been lost with the social reality, and a person lives in isolation with something only they perceive. Is this always true though? Maybe not. If you look at something like the environment, that is a direct reality of ecological damage, overpopulation, and pollution etc. The indirect reality of the majority of people which is a type of solipsism denies this reality in a way that might be summed up in the term YOLO, that their personal desires supersede the reality of the world and as a result overconsume, overpopulate and pollute etc. So there is one example of a nonpathological delusion that causes harm, that is completely indirect realism. Well not completely, they are following the social norm.

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I really want to comment because you seem to want some engagement from me, but honestly I am not understanding this very well. I think you understand the meanings better than I do, and so I can only grasp some of what you are saying.

Are you interested in sharing your thoughts for debate, or to teach, to connect, to learn more?

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I think its good exercise for my brain to make posts online, invega quiets my mind so thinking is a struggle sometimes. If you want to talk about it, I’m open to it.

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So the premise is that normies are deluded with yolo (wilful ignorance) and this is detrimental to the environment. Is that a fair summary?

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I think they are.

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I think you’re right. I find the economy triggering, but that is where i see so much deluded thinking. Like my family all think house prices will go up for ever with no consequences. Nobody believes me that the UK and USA could end up like Venezuela.

I think the difference is that normies choose to be deluded, or to be in denial. They just don’t want to think about negatives. It’s not that they can’t, just they don’t want to.

Is that what you meant by pathological vs non-pathological; the ability to choose?

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Maybe it is. I didn’t think of that, that’s a good idea though.

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