All this talk about diseases and cures... HMMM?

First of all you have to have an actual disease and know what causes it to cure it and thus far there is NO such thing as “schizophrenia The Disease”. For over three hundred years the establishment (who ever they are other than people grappling for authority and money) have made it there utmost effort since the enlightenment to find a physical cause of schizophrenia. They have done everything from remove stomaches, various tortures (from insulin shock therapy, to electroshock, to lobotomies and blood letting) to today, intoxicating individuals with chemicals to shut off parts and chemically “bandage” the brain to vary degrees of success and\or sedate a person to feeble mindedness. They have done all of this with the idea that it must be a material cause, because like Madonna sang in the 80s, “We are living in a material world and I am a material girl”.

In reality the exact cause is unknown, it may be one issue or many issues working in tandem depending on the person. What is clear though is that through out this history some things have improved the chances of full recovery for a majority (60 to 70% of those with the condition). They are as follows:

First and foremost a person be able to take refuge from the day to day struggle of survival, preferably in an environment that is focused on recovery. No drugs should be used unless as a last resort (to suppress consistent and persistent homicidal or suicidal acts). The person suffering should have quality food to eat and plenty of exercise. Thorough medical exam to eliminate any possible biological causes that can be tested for or any intoxications. No Alcohol, cigarettes, or illicit drugs. Attendants in that setting should be open, minded, gentle, compassionate and by all means “be with” the person suffering. The attendants should not use coercion or force. The suffer should be able to come and go as they please.

Additionally, The suffer should attend (but not be forced to) talk therapy sessions where in open dialogue happens, no secrets that the therapist (or his or her handlers) keeps and no secrets that the suffer keeps. This dialogue should be free of punishment and should be only concerned with dialogue and reasoning out of the exact nature of the suffering and how to resolve it. The therapist should be open minded and well versed in a wide range of philosophical, social, poltical, paranormal, spiritual, religious. and sexual and gender related topics with as little bias as possible. The suffer and therapist should try to reason through and cast light on truths, subjective or objective, which will assist the sufferer in his or her recovery … a true scientist and “doctor” in other words.

Finally, the aim of the refuge is not to profit, but provide all of the above in a reasonably cost effective and safe manner. The aim of the refuge is not to create a better “consumer” or “worker” or “student” or “patient” but a better human being, one that is capable of providing this sort of help to others, in what ever capacity that person choses as his or her’s life’s work.

In my experience and research of other testimony and studies, the above is the best treatment for those that experience psychosis (especially first time experiences) or crisis of any kind.

This IS ALL I HAVE BEEN SEEKING SINCE MY PROBLEMS FIRST DEVELOPED and so far have not obtained. What about you? To me, this is common sense and well testified to. To find the sources of my perscriptions for myself and my brothers and sisters with this condition. Read my list of sources for these ideas on my blog … https://mrlister68.wordpress.com/

I have been dealing with psychosis for 13 years, only given drugs, and now I have tardive dyskensia, anxiety, COPD, flirtations with alcohol demons, and an inability to work a full time job and support myself. This is “Quallity Care?” of the least fortunate, us who have a problem that only we the brave have to deal with ? My fight is running out kids. If we don’t demand it as a group and attend to the hearts of those who care for us, and educate ourselves and those that seemingly have to much control over us, its not going to happen. They are already drugging toddlers and children, when are you going to do the research, when are you going to speak up for what you really need my friends? I am HERE and in the doctor’s office, and in front of the social worker. Those that have ears will hear.

Well said. Amen

We’re all in the same boat (more or less) @mister_lister. Do you think the new CBD drugs will change things?

I must be an old school ■■■■ head, I think real people encountered, and socialized with, in person willl either lead you astrary or deeper in the mystery.

butt of course, play your x-box

I think that’s a problem that people without schizophrenia have too. People are complex.

there are no magic pills for the human condition or best on liners
consider the titanic that sunk
or the lucitania
or any numbr of bank robbers that made ww1 or 2
will you give then a third?

No, there’s no magic pill for the human condition.

But there are pills to treat symptoms, symptoms that you don’t want. Like diabetes. Like schizophrenia.

Its alll about you can tolerate, or they willl secure a prophet and an exact change for anyone before, whatever makes you the betest consumer. nevery mind the murder mystery you are writing, there is a very convincing strory up stairs

not found in fiction or non-fiction … it is your own

Or scripture, man you man the telephone book like i has numbers

dial up or laying cable?

maybe sattelite love, lets have a song

teen spirit or the after effects

shelf assured
impermance
acting vital and contagious

Yes, it’s all about what you can tolerate. Are you able to tolerate your meds? Are you still taking them?

what is wood, does it ■■■■■■ around too, or do you where a white sheet and some language to cover up the crime, here we are now, I skate alot, I mut be sir lance alot

frinedly fire,home team don’'t recieve, hell owe, captain of autrocity, and murder, here we are now give us our benefits

Lister, please give the proselytizing a rest for a while. You’re not helping anyone, least of all yourself.

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