New medication, yay

did you took your abilify sarad? I didn’t follow the conversation? one ‘‘normal’’ friend of mine is telling to me that the docs don’t know how to treat au, yeah :/…
take care

did you start Abilify on monday @Sarad

Yes I did but I don’t feel much change. First day I slept shortly after I took it and I couldn’t stay concentrated…also my hands are shaking from time to time. But that’s all minor. I’ll call her next week.

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This goes away in within about ten days for most people taking arapiprasole, but if it doesn’t, you may be on too high a dose.

Yeah I got that with wellbutrin too. It is just 5mg…

Ohhhhh, yeah. I remember now that you got a script. And you seemed to know that buproprion will give the shakes to those with certain genetic and epigentic predispotions… often (sigh) those underlying bipolar. (Me, too. Years ago.) Combine two (relatively mild) neurostimulants together, however, and… ■■■■. :imp:

Strength to accept what you cannot change…
:smile:

You got it. (Though what we can actually change may be well beyond what we believe we can change.) (Took me 35 years to learn that. :unamused: )

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Well about two weeks later I dont see anything changed except I’m more irritable, active and sleepless.
Nevertheless, I started thinking about the actual reason she gave me another medication at first place.
I mean, is that what they are supposed to do?
I told her how I feel, she listened carefully and said only, I’ll get you on this, it will make you feel better.
I don’t want to mask my problems with stupid pill, I want to feel better because I have some skills to make myself feel that way.
That was her ■■■■■■■ job.

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It’s not about masking your problems. Sure you need to develop coping skills to go with the reverse of the chemical imbalance in your brain. Anti-psychotics don’t mask your problems, and I can only speak from experience, they just make me normal. They make my mood better, my psychosis go away and my thinking clearer. I’d be dead without it no matter how good of coping skills I could have. That said coping skills are important too. Maybe it’s just not the right drug for you.

I don’t want another drug actually.
I need to learn to get myself out of misery state because it feels like dying.
I event think that she is tired of speaking with me.
Thanks ttp you’re probably right about AP’s.

It seems to be making you worse, you were doing much better before abilify… Maybe your old medication regiment+better coping skills=your path to success :wink:

See even Sagar Gorjilla agrees

http://puu.sh/lEQvD/e326cb54c8.png

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So cool! :smile:

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Sometimes that’s not even possible without a med to help you feel better enough to make it possible to do the work. If that makes sense.

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i lasted about 2 months on the ability. i couldn’t sleep at all. i couldn’t eat. my heart pounded through the roof. i was totally manic and insane as ever. i was taking it for schizophrenia, and my doc kept upping the dose b/c he thought it would solve the symptom problems, but it only made things worse. finally i stopped taking it and within the month i returned to my “normal” self. i would NEVER recommend it to anyone, despite having a close girlfriend who loves it.

I became disorientated dizzy and ended up throwing up on the phyc ward when I was on Abillify.

Needless to say they had to change my meds to something else.

@DaisyMae @tommiez

See the articles https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=computer%20algorithm%20for%20antipsychotic%20medication.

Better, board-certified psychopharmacologists in the US and the UK are already using these. They will hopefully save a =lot= of time… and prevent a lot of grief.

@Sarad is doing =much= better now, btw.

Here’s some more possibly useful stuff:

  1. Get a copy of this book and read it and have your family read it, as well. (Torrey can be a bit totalistic and unwilling to see exceptions to his “rules” at times, but most of the book is really worth the effort to plough through.)
    http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Schizophrenia-6th-Edition-Family/dp/0062268856
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  2. Get properly diagnosed by a board-certified psychopharmacologist who specializes in the psychotic disorders. One can find them at…
    http://doctor.webmd.com/find-a-doctor/specialty/psychiatry and https://psychiatrists.psychologytoday.com/rms/
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  3. Work with that “psychiatrist” (or “p-doc”) to develop a medication formula that stabilizes their symptoms sufficiently so that they can tackle the psychotherapy that will disentangle their thinking.
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  4. The best of the psychotherapies for that currently include…
    DBT – http://behavioraltech.org/resources/whatisdbt.cfm
    MBSR – http://www.mindfullivingprograms.com/whatMBSR.php
    MBCT - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22340145
    ACT – https://contextualscience.org/act
    10 StEP – http://pairadocks.blogspot.com/2015/04/the-10-steps-of-emotion-processing.html
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  5. the even newer somatic psychotherapies like…
    MBBT – https://www.newharbinger.com/blog/introduction-mind-body-bridging-i-system
    SEPT – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somatic_Experiencing
    SMPT – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensorimotor_psychotherapy
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  6. or standard CBTs, like…
    REBT – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rational_emotive_behavior_therapy
    Schematherapy – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schema_Therapy
    Learned Optimism – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learned_optimism
    Standard CBT – https://www.nami.org/Learn-More/Treatment/Psychotherapy & scroll down
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  7. If you/she/he needs a professional intervention to get through treatment resistance, tell me where you live, and I will get back to you with leads to those services.
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  8. Look into the RAISE Project at https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=raise%20program%20schizophrenia.
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  9. Look for mental illness clubhouses in your area (which can be hugely helpful… but may also pose risks). Dig through the many articles at https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=mental%20illness%20clubhouse%20model to locate and investigate them.